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08 July 2011 @ 08:55 am
For those who think their therianthropy is psychological...  

I did a forum post on this subject the other day, and a lot of people responded really positively to it! ^^

If, like me, you think your therianthropy is psychological, do you ever get the feeling that we're kind of overshadowed? As though there are more people who believe their therianthropy is spiritual or spirituality based? I think the majority of people see it as spiritual.

And that's okay. But sometimes it feels weird when a new therian joins the community and they immediately see therianthropy as being a deep, spiritual thing because they aren't aware that there are those of us who see it as a mental thing. And people on the outside looking in, who think we're all into this because it has deep spiritual meaning to us, when that isn't the case for everybody. Does anybody know what I mean? XD It's... frustraiting somehow.
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Schneelockeschnee on July 8th, 2011 10:06 am (UTC)
(A fair warning — I imagine the following may offend some people. I could couch it in terms of "of course what you believe is up to, and it's totally OK if" and so on, but that should go without saying, anyway, and I don't want to water down the below by constantly including that sort of language rather than focussing on what I'm trying to say. So without further ado...)

I sometimes feel like that, yes. I'm not even sure what therianthropy means for me, personally, but it can feel a little weird indeed when almost everyone (?) talks about it as if it it does not raise any serious philosophical questions.

Therianthropy *is* a spiritual thing for me, but I don't know what that means or how to reconcile it with the world out there and the things we know about it. The salient point of my current best explanation is that spirituality is per se psychological: the body is a complex system that gives rise to a mind, and (this is the important bit) the mind is a complex system that gives rise to what one might call, for lack of another word, a soul. In other words, It's All In Your Head™ but that doesn't make it any less real.

Often, you hear explanations that are more mystical in nature. I like these, and (depending on the specifics) may even wish they were true, but I cannot see how one can think they ARE true. If something appears to be squarely at odds with our current best understanding of physical reality, that inconsistency needs to be explained, but in practice, it never (?) is. In fact, it's never even acknowledged, and that always gives me a feeling of weirdness that I think is the same as the one you're getting, although you might still be coming from a different angle than I am otherwise. *s*

I would like to be a more spiritual person (in the mystical sense), and I'd love it if therianthropy was more than just something that's All In My Head™, but the reality I live in just isn't like that.
Pye: Squidddpyewackettt on July 8th, 2011 11:40 am (UTC)
From what I've seen of you, I like you schnee. :) That made a lot of sense!
Schneelockeschnee on July 8th, 2011 12:00 pm (UTC)
*smiles* Thank you. I don't usually talk about my therianthropy a lot, but I've already seen you around, too, so... *s*
House of Chimeras: Mist Weaver -  Old Sketchhouseofchimeras on July 8th, 2011 11:10 am (UTC)
I think I’m going to spilt this up at tad bit. Being a fictionkin I don’t allow myself to think its anything other than psychological cut and dry. From what little I’ve seen in the fictionkin community, I do feel the psychological explanations are wholly overshadowed to the point I haven’t seen it much at all. Because of this I don’t hang around in the fictionkin community.

As for the therian community, yes I think it is sometimes overshadowed but mostly when people try and describe therianthropy as a spiritual thing alone.

- Mist Weaver
mexwerewolfmexwerewolf on July 8th, 2011 03:12 pm (UTC)
I think believing it is spiritual makes explaining therianthropy easier. The idea of being purely psychological makes me feel "crazy" or "traumatized". Now, I really don't discard any of both theories. Actually, when I think of being a wolf, I can't be 100% sure if it is a spirit inside me or just my mind playing wolf "tricks" in my head. But, for me, it is not important. I am a wolf, and the origin of why I am a wolf is just irrelevant.
furry1337otakufurry1337otaku on July 8th, 2011 04:37 pm (UTC)
I believe all magic is psychological. The one great thing I took from the Harry Potter series was a quote of "Of course it's all in your head, but whyever would that make it not real?"

All things are a science, working mechanisms of the universe, full of repeatable patterns waiting to be uncovered, and it is only by its efficacy that we can really judge them.

Magic/Spirituality is primitive psychology/Psychology is advanced Magic. By efficacy they're equal and just different names for the same processes.

Whatever your path "the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

As long as it has a positive impact on your life and relationships, it is real, it is important, and it is good.

Also, worth noting, the fantastical explanations we give are simply our own interpretations of the individual truths we are presented with. All Truth is intuitive and subjective, differing between every individiual, as we all are in fact individuals with different paths to follow, trying to make an objective declaration just doesn't work with truth, only with facts, which are nothing on their own.
razkhelrazkhel on July 8th, 2011 05:42 pm (UTC)
I believe me being otherkin is both spiritual and psychological in perfect balance. :)

However, I don't believe being otherkin or therian is just a spiritual thing alone.
Alchemist of Al-Revis: catrubyprism on July 8th, 2011 06:41 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, sometimes I think people present it very hardcore their way, as though therianthropy itself were always a spiritual phenomenon or always a psychological one. That always makes me feel kind of weird, like they're missing out on a lot of what else it is.

I think it probably happens because they feel that that angle makes it easier for them to explain to outsiders. They think that if they present therianthropy is a belief, then people won't pathologise it. Or, they've had people say "I reject your identity because I don't believe in it", and they present it as psychological so that others will accept that it's a real experience they have. Those reasons can lead to a presentation that tries to define all of therianthropy in a way that's most strategic... But it cuts out a lot of truth.
Denali Lobitagrowly on July 9th, 2011 02:46 am (UTC)
No, I agree! I don't like it when spiritual matters make their way into definitions of therianthropy.
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Pye: Snail Mum & Babypyewackettt on July 13th, 2011 06:45 pm (UTC)
My therianthropy is mental, I think it's in my head. But it still effects me and is a big part of me, so, yeah. :3